england is depressing and full of chavs

I am glad you had the courage to leave it all behind and become the fulfilled and happy person you are today. I'm from England but I moved to Iceland a year ago. WOW. We have numerous pastries with fillings going from cheese to spinach (like the Greeks, yes!) I am stuck with sole British citizenship now and trying hard to get out of here. The non-whites you do have in YOUR government are actively working against their own people's interests (Patel and Sunak come to mind) and they are highly xenophobic. Although, sometimes, we do miss having a good old pint with our mates :). Of course, as a foreigner, I understood my limitations, yet spelling was never a major issue. Portugal is the 4th safest country in Europe England used to be a nice place and I really wish we could do something to increase the safety rankings. It makes me so sad to see where we have ended up. This results in you learning to cook a variety of world dishes. The responses are more illuminating, reminding me, a Brit, of how and why I want out.good luck with what comes your way They married Chinese wives or Chinese husbands and now they have to take them out of their very reserved culture and environment to adapt to something new all because the foreigner doesn't like living in China anymore? It seems like a majority but if you look at the facts behind the polls, it was mostly the older generation who voted leave, the people who were blind-sided by promises of more money for the NHS and better help for the elderly and infirm. Being born in Europe and now a British national, I also chose to move away from the UK. I'm sad that 52% of our fellow countrymen make you feel that you're not welcome. This is not to say that England (or the rest of the UK) is not a good place to live. We would love to rent a car and drive for hours. You can't compare Lisbon to London of course. Thats a huge number for a small country. Kind Regards. [6], Opinion is divided on the origin of the term. Alas, we did it! Watching my home country fall apart from afar is so embarrassing and upsetting. ), and the always fast pace. The class system, the monopoly that the Royals hold and their ongoing theft of taxpayer funds while supported by the House of Frauds and their PR machine have destroyed the soul of the UK. We should all be free to live a happy life everywhere. There were very few British born citizens working those jobs, and it's because very few British born citizens can go beyond the thinking that working in a fast food chain or as a cleaner or in a call centre for minimum wage is below them. Hi Brian, thank you for your insightful message. I guess, home is what you make of it. I am glad you found a country to call home, and hope you'll enjoy there! Canada is so high on our bucket list. Dear Sarah, New Zealand truly is a wonderful place. Mass immigration or controlled immigration will not change the way a Briton chooses whether to invite a foreigner for a cup of tea or shepherd's pie. That would be denigrating for a Brit, wouldn't it, to be an immigrant? People are kind and welcoming. I've found people angry and bitter, jealous of our "success" so shunning us, mad at the whole world and blaming the new family down the street rather than reflecting on how their own attitudes drive down the areas we live in. Im delighted you have got out and I hope I can do the same one day. Complete and utter rubbish. Anyone who moans about food options in the modern UK must be very, very insular and live in a little bubble or is a spoiled idiot with myopia. Nonetheless, the dark side usually has cookies :), I can imagine you want to escape the rain. Thank you so much for your honesty and strength. We lived in Bristol, Bob. Every time mum came to visit, she always said how much she loves shopping for food in the UK. Oh, and I don't know what 'self-sufficant' is - perhaps you were trying to say 'self-sufficient'? A controlled immigration Program. Over half the worlds patented inventions are British. When you get ill on your travels, take a British penicillin. Nobody is going to vote "leave" and nobody is going to vote for "Trump". Our last update reflects that we chose to move back to the UK. As you might have gathered, my husband is Hungarian. I cannot accept hundreds of people commenting that "the best interest" of someone's kid is to die, without letting the parents try a lost battle, basically to protect the bottom line of the country coffers. They just dont get to vote. we miss home but home is empty.. The person states,,with no doubt ,, that the vast majority of the people in the UK are racist ! Not for Muslims it isnt. Reading this gave me a peace of mind. The problem with Britain is that it bends over backwards too much, and does not do enough - paradoxically, at the same time. And your seasons kick ass :) You can ski, swim, tan, walk. [12] This is widely regarded as a backronym. Except the rain; everyone hates the rain haha. The Algarve, however, excellent place in Portugal. Yes, yes, yes and yes! I think I have officially reached the point of depression due to the rain and I am absolutely desperate to leave. Perfect response. May I wish you both all the very best with your trip. I might be back to UK to visit Stratford but not sure when, and I hope the situation will get much better during my return trip. I'm glad you had the chance to go for a brighter future abroad. The cost of HS2 is mainly in legal fees ! We're yet to find ours, and I hope you will find yours, wherever that may be. You, Philip de Bose, are a piece of sh*t. Ah, yeah and we probably have more teeth than you, you snivelling little turd. Furthermore, fun fact, but did you know the UK is the third-safest country to drive? Also your whole comment is actually quite racist. Turns out, the UK has always been, home, our home. Our neighbours have been fantastic and really welcoming. Once again, thanks for this post, I will be recommending it to my friends. I came to the UK because I wanted to experience life as it is depicted in most cultural products about this island (the cosy cottages, the misty hills and the pub folklore) ; that's how the UK is depicted abroad. Hi Maria, I've been to Tenerife before and indeed, the weather and the food: awesome! This country in terms of its media and even statesman speed by the government have made it very hostile place towards people like myself. I thought I am alone on the Harry Potter thing, and I remember looking for Hogwarts during my Scottish highland tours. You cannot blame the EU for UK's mistakes. They told me they didn't want me because I couldn't spell. Overcrowded and filling rapidly with alien cultures hostile to their host. Anyway long story short because I could reference many examples of me seeing racism and ignorance, openly and behind closed doors from other people and my self included too and learning from my own mistakes and developing as a person because we don't always have positive influences in our lives and at times I have held points of view that I would be ashamed to think about now. It's a hiker's paradise, there's so much green, with ancient woodlands, rocky formations and medieval villages. Surprise surprise, a racist in a racist country, what was I expecting?! You wont find any other country that can joke about itself like the Brits. Very brave and I can't wait to see what comes next! I don't know where you've seen Brits treated like slaves. To be honest honest there is no credibility in your post, as all youve done is made a great realised, narrow minded view of a nation of 60 million people! See the look on their faces when they realised what that vote actually meant. Suddenly this opened up my world to the whole other side of the UK that I had been ignoring for my whole life. Your remark about the EU being a dictatorship shows a bizarre disconnect from the ugly reality of the current world. We created 42droids which became the pillar of our careers. So here you had, a student willing to work and pay taxes, and nobody wanted to help her get a NI number, a Yellow Card or a job. Not just weather, lifestyle or even landscape. Hey! Bye. Once you move from home and truly settle somewhere else, there is no real home anymore. Is it because you're desperately trying to get away, and you can't? This means that if you have a car, you can get pretty much anywhere around the UK. So many people prefer going abroad when there are so many wonderful places to see within the country. High standards, high expectations, high quality living. Thank you for writing this article, it is absolutely spot on and details my feelings on living in the UK to a tee. I am not intolerant towards your opinions. Not to say travel in the UK was so expensive, not to mention living there. Ive lived here all my life, 40 years. [17][24] Critics of the term have argued that its users are "neo-snobs",[25] and that its increasing popularity raises questions about how British society deals with social mobility and class.[26]. As to Philip de Boses' pathetic comment about the British being cowards - are you French by the way? But obviously you're biased because you're an immigrant so you're never gonna understand me. As an ex-Londoner now living in Sydney, I can definitely relate to a lot of this - particularly rental prices in London. We should celebrate that and so should other countries. It is an adaptive culture. I thought it had to do with me but the more I got to know more locals and foreigners like myself, the more I realised that was just the way life in London was. Name something, chances are its better in any different European country. I'm going to start by saying that it wasn't always like this. Gloucester has been featured on a popular website dedicated to 'chav towns'. -Cuisine- LOL. This isn't really a new thing. Have you considered leaving Europe and heading to places like Australia and New Zealand? And we've come to the conclusion, that there's no place like home.. His family is super conservative (they voted leave) and it's quite surprising to see how people are close-minded and so patriotic. Rain makes this country green heaven, which is ideal for keeping those beautiful rolling hills everyone loves. We're thinking of moving away as soon as I've finished my studies for many of the same reasons as the ones you mentioned. So, since citizens of the world, are citizens of nowhere my advice is: 1) Keep your UK investments and properties and join the rentiers class They are more racist Im afraid, albeit in a passive way. Brandon, you are a delusional idi*t. I am an Indian immigrant and I would rather eat my own excrement than be English. I'm already considering buying an apartment in Tenerife - a true paradise of sunshine (good climate, great food, low cost of living). It.has been sad to see the decline of the uk. Trust me, live as a black person in Italy or Greece, or a Muslim in Colombia or Argentina for a while and you will really understand racism. I am getting to the point that I will miss Uk if I move back, will hard to get back to square 1 as life in Romania is still hard . 3) Live somewhere else where you can actually LIVE and not simply EXIST. But this is something new. On describing those who use the word, the society stated that "we all know their old serviette/napkin, lounge/living room, settee/sofa tricks. It feels like the majority of the population hate being alive, and the infamous make-do and stiff-upper-lip attitude gets to me. It's proven that immigration is a totally positive thing for a country, and historically immigrants have contributed FAR more than they have received. I want to thank you from all my heart that you took the time to tell us we are welcome. As you might have gathered thus far, the prices in the UK are rather high. Thank you for addressing that question bravely, truthfully and directly and may you and your partner have lots of luck and joy in finding your place in this world. Its sad what is happening with the world today. France thought about it. I do agree that Brexit is a good thing because it will force Europe to grow and be better in business and improve their own cities and cooperation without a tick such as England. I understand and appreciate your opinions. I don't know where I'm going with this, so will leave it there. Saying that, UK has a huge potential to rebound when it breaks away from the limpets in power sucking its tits off. I was in Madeira when I saw the results for Brexit. Stories of betrayal. This puts us into conflict with other countries that want to keep us in our place and some people find this a shock to the system compared to their home country. My Portuguese friend said the Portuguese just want to live in the beach, but the Brits try to be something more than they are. And you know what? Don't confuse friendliness with openness. Imported American culture. A socialist government will. I dont always like this, but I prefer this to the Chinese system of steamrolling over peoples rights, which would be much cheaper. I was curious to know where have you shifted to and how has your experience been so far. The cool Britannia era and the political discourse around equal opportunities, positive discrimination and multiculturalism gradually over a long period of time became completely replaced with an anti immigration narrative which reached a crescendo with Brexit and ripped a massive great hole through the country and I honestly don't believe we can ever be the same again. Now foreigners or people of colour get beaten up again and regularly so for being who they are. Scotland is a wonderful place, but ultimately, it is still part of the UK.for now at least :). I find this so interesting because I would have never expected to learn these things about Canada. Any advice is really welcomed [32] Lauren Socha, the actress who portrays Kelly, has described the character as being "a bit chavvy". Despite looking great on a Downton Abbey episode, this is not the place I see myself living (and many British friends are moving as well). The term is used to describe an anti-social lower-class youth dressed in sportswear. The word "chav", and its various synonyms and regional variations, has become a ubiquitous term of abuse for white working class subjects. But somehow people consider Switzerland as a safe and liberal country. But don't just take my word for it. It's not cool that you can only wear a skirt for 5 days of sunshine throughout the year (we call that the elusive British heatwave). We weren't happy in our home country either. Let's see what food Bucharest is known for - hmmm, stuffed cabbage, Ciorba de burta (tripe soup) and roasted eggplant salad. I'd really like to visite England again, because i think i lacked many things to know and experience in this place, i like England very much and i hope to be back soon. For more than a year we are still trying to find our home. You see, I actually love the pace in London. Leave a comment below. I mean let's spend millions on exiting. For all of the previous eras' racism, the opportunities and quality of life were much higher for the fewer immigrants that came here. One other thing I learnt is where can you go in the world where you will not be the victim of racism because of your name or your origins? Warrens Village: Miserable, noisy, depressing, tacky, chav-tastic - See 308 traveler reviews, 221 candid photos, and great deals for Warrens Village at Tripadvisor. Violent, dirty cities. [15], In a case where a teenage woman was barred from her own home under the terms of an anti-social behaviour order in 2005, some British national newspapers branded her "the real-life Vicky Pollard" with the Daily Star running headlines reading, "Good riddance to chav scum: real life Vicky Pollard evicted",[16] both referring to a BBC comedy character (see In the media below). What I always find hard to believe is how humans fail to learn from previous mistakes. Tolerant please don't make me laugh. Hi Ella, thank you for your warm comment. People in general seem pretty chilled. Good luck on your move and finding the sun. Dear Emma, I am glad you found your way in the world. British people love Italy. It's also quite scary how a lot of those people, like myself, who were born and bred in the UK, due to racism and mistreatment, clasp their hands in glee as the UK makes wrong decision after wrong decision. Totally agree with so much of this! I had been living in my liberal bubble my entire life and had surrounded my self with educated people who feel passionate about gender issues, race issues and really believe in the importance of creating a society which is fair for everyone, regardless of where they or their family are from. Dream! Yes, I disagree with Brexit, but that is the nature of democracy. Paris is wetter than London..south of England gets more sunshine than the Low Countries..what were you expecting when you moved here wall to wall sunshine?! There is no way you had to give up Indian citizenship. The living quality and standards are just so much better in most other countries I have lived in (Ireland included) that I lost my willingness to try and live here. But good for you for taking on a new path, that's always exciting! I still had responsibilities, I still had bad days but it was all worth it. This is before any deductions. Germany had low morale and wanted a change in 1940's which allowed Hitler to come to power who blamed, you guessed it, Jews for all of Deutschland's problems. Switzerland recently voted to restrict Islamic mosques. I think it needs more historical perspective though. You've written an incredible and brilliant post here, Cory! Because I was a Law student whereby language skills were paramount. This is sad. London has more recognised international communities than New York. Yorkshire was home to countless pits (coal mines) and factories, no matter what it was highly likely that it'll have been made in Yorkshire and most of the 52% live there because they know that supporting yourself is important - work hard and reap the rewards. Cory is multilingual and an alumna from The University of Manchester. "Chav is an utterly misunderstood term. It doesn't rain disproportionately at all. The Midlands, SE, and even parts of the NE have less rain. I now live in the United States with my brother and while there are also problems, there are ample opportunities for professional growth and learning and I generally feel America places more value in your experience. [31] The BBC comedy series Little Britain features the character Vicky Pollard (portrayed by Matt Lucas), a parody of a teenage female chav. You cant have all the decisions go your way. What might come as a shock is that I even loved the weather! We've left again. But this was short-lived because I arrived in the UK during a dark time for Romanians and Bulgarians who just joined the EU. You insult our country and our people. London is the 6th Most Michelin Starred city in the world, higher than Hong Kong or Barcelona. The UK blames, as you said, hard-working Poles, Romanians, and now the whole EU. I didn't read the whole thing - but as someone who was born here 42 years ago, and regularly goes abroad to escape when everything gets 'too british', I have just returned from a 2 month stint in New York, and I'm finding it really difficult to adjust to the country again. I would have thought it's exaggerated, bitter and mean. Its streets are filled with mullet, snapback, nike, [] I'm a foreigner myself, living in the UK and have not encountered ANY racism at all yet. I have a partner and were happy but other than that relationship I have no fulfilment. To be a global citizen shouldn't be a bane of existence. Is England a good place to live? I chose to live in Manchester for University but lived for 6 years in Bristol. Yet, almost 9 Million (!) With my partner we feel the same and are struggling with hate/ underestimation and xenophobia in London for a long time. Britain is a small island and we value our green space, which has been eroded over the years through over development. Britain was built on pure evil and racism. Unlike many others, we understand the importance of being part of the EU. 'Chav' is a word that we heard all the time, like ten years ago! Wow, this was an incredibly interesting read. One thing I am sure of though from all the faults of living in italy we are so much happier as a family. Britain has come a long way, and whilst not perfect, is one of the most welcoming nations culturally-curious in the world. Im not alone. I also hope your partner will learn to agree with you and understand you, if nothing else. It sucks that you can't wear a dress unless you go on holiday. Having lived and worked in many places, from the US to India, the liberal (not liberalism that is being forced upon us now) mindset of this land has always accepted that "different" person to practice their life with respect. This article was first published on the 13th of January 2017 and updated many times since. That so many immigrants come to the UKcomplain about itgo country hopping and then come back, says a lot about Britain, British culture.. and those people. Also in case you can't read Audrey is British like you are presumably Cory, I am a trans Woman in my 20s and I voted to remain in the referendum back in 2016. But it's starting to pop up again, with quite a few creators on TikTok and other platforms making videos that take the mick out of. Why were you searching for topics related to moving away from the UK? Healthcare and education were much worse under the left. Plus, all the great writers and scientists coming from here made me think the educational system would be wonderful. It wasn't until the last year of University that I landed my first full-time job with Apple. Sorry for the belated reply. Thank you for your comment. But I'm not shocked. great article, summarises all I ended up thinking about the UK four years after moving here. Romanian and other Balkan foods are perfect mixes of Turkish, Greek, German and other Eastern European countries such as Russia, Poland, and so on. What an informative post! Sadly, children and teens are already seeing England and the English for what they really are, and so to the rest of the world. Without even asking for permission to stay and do that. I still love visiting friends and family in London, do some sight seeing but that's it. I do hope you move to Barcelona soon! 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