The combination of the ported barrels, which reduces muzzle climb, and those green fiber-optic sights, which enable easy target acquisition in all light conditions, make this is one hell of a tactical shotgun. All in all pretty easy and smooth. Now that almost EVERY round is a buck a shot , I could deal with a reasonable quality SXS . Welcome to the Leverguns.Com Forum. Live and learn. Hammerless No. by Rusty Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:59 pm, Post Many people might wonder why these guns have withstood the test of time as trusted weapons, but the answer is simple. With the buckshot at 25 yards, both barrels put plenty of good hits in a good place on the target. Compared to the light field loads, the recoil produced by Remington Express Magnum buckshot was super brutto. But, as I was soon to discover, the Silverado was no lightweight. But it was well worth it. However, hard to find. The NON Supreme Model Shotgun has Fixed Chokes and are not removable. We discuss most anything here politely. Ive been wanting a coach gun for quite a while. I shoot a Stoeger coach gun, hammerless. The longer barrels would be a better hunter. Interestingly enough, nearly everyone who shared this issue all had great experiences with Stoegers customer service getting their gun fixed. And . I just cut the stock, use the cut off piece as a template , rough it down on the disc sander, finish it off by hand, and Im pretty close every time. Shortening the lock impeller spring The spring around the lock impeller is stiff and requires a lot of pressure on the lever to break it open. My palms are sweating just contemplating it. The Stoeger Coach Gun was the top choice for enthusiasts looking for a side-by-side shotgun in 2019, according to volume of purchases made through the services of Gunbroker.com. Now, as to one other mod you could make, but which requires a significant expenditure on tooling: you could lengthen the forcing cones, which will change the recoil impulse a bit. It is called a coach gun because it was widely used by stage coach guards in the Wild West days. It is death on black birds. Theres all kinds of abrasive polish and specialty tools available. Using Remington Gun Club 1-1/8oz loads, about 6 out of 8 ro. Get the stainless firing pins (and the tool) from longhunter. Cantankerousbastard that I am, I remained determined to dislike it. That next week, I watched several YouTube video on how to slick up a coach gun. I believe it is the Coach Gun Supreme, stainless receiver, blue barrels. Its easy to maneuver through the house, and 12-gauge is absolutely devastating at across-the-living-room distances, even with birdshot. I'm thinking a hammerless would be the best for her less to do and less to go wrong. Although the Supreme isnt available in .410, it does have some pretty sweet variety in its receiver/barrel finish combinations, including stainless/polished blue, polished blue, and polished nickel. It's a pretty hefty gun so no need for a recoil pad. The 1897 and 1887 guns are both John Browning designs. I thought Id find the Coach Gun boring and vanilla. So I had to remember to flip the safety off before pulling the trigger. I HAVE ALL 3 OF THE SHOTGUNS YOU DESCRIBE. due to their break open simplicity and manual of arms they likewise would be ideal After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. I love my Stoeger. Clean the firing pin and screw well and oil lightly. If yes reinstall that original spring? The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Its benelli go to there site its right there. The Coach Gun doesn't feature automatic ejectors, so the shells must be picked out before the shotgun is reloaded. I don't know of anyone who has had the misfire troubles with Coach Guns, and I know of two that have stood up well to fairly heavy use & hunting over a number of years. Never had a problem with reloads in any O/U or SXS Ive ever had . I have a 12 ga. Stoeger coach gun and absolutely love it. When I found out that I was getting a coach gun to review, I had the same reaction that your Uncle Bob does when he finds out you got him new underwear and socks for Christmas . It was light and fast to mount. It stays in his gun cabinet. What scope base will fit my Stoeger shotgun? I would steer anyone away from Stoeger over/unders. When you press the lever to open the action, the cam rotates and pushes the rod back. I also have a Zhongzhou Machine Works China coach gun that looks like treadhead1952s. Model: COACH GUN. by Chuck 100 yd Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:12 pm, Post I wasted no time taking the Silverado into the great Arkansas outdoors for a work-out. Does anyone know what the fix is or do I have an expensive wall hanger.HELLLLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!! Because they wanted to stick with the classic appeal of a true Coach gun, most of their models feature the traditional double trigger. I would lube it and shoot it. I have 2 IGA/Stoegers, the Coach Gun (20") and an Uplander (26"). But I would certainly not be unarmed if all I had was a Stoeger Coach Gun and six spare shells. Did you have the lever spring lightened for easier operation when opening? One still had string beans hanging out of his mouth. Even better: the gun felt lively to my shoulder. And thats when it happened. Reliability * * * * * Action: boxlock side-by-side I now have a $400 shotgun with $700 invested. The 20 inch barrels are the longest component when broken down. have purchase a Stoeger Coach Gun 20ga double barrell from a gun show, request where I can purchase the removable chokes. Fast? Ive been looking at the same shotgun. I have used it for jump shooting ducks with 3" steel shells and killed many birds with it, including doubles on wood ducks. Specifications: Chokes: IC and M fixed; Sights: Brass Bead; Weight: 6.5lbs Greener action and nicely done. I was focusing on safety and technique, not speed, so I was comfortable with the few rounds of practice I got with the gun the day before the match. First, you gotta check out their TLR-4 Tac Light with a built-in laser light; this $130 accessory is as durable and reliable as they come. The fix is not too difficult if you are reasonably adept with tools. If you can afford it ($600), you cant go wrong with the legendary Leupold and their DeltaPoint Pro red dot reflex sight. I patterned the gun with shotshells, buckshot, and slugs at distances from 25 to 40 yards. Its always a good day when I learn new stuff. The Coach Gun Supreme is a thing of wonder on the trap range. And got it. 2. Whats a tactical shotgun without accessories? by Griff Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:30 am, Post I proved that sandpaper, toothpaste, and elbow grease can achieve the same effect. It was awesome! The inner workings are less than primitive. It makes a huge difference. All you have to do is push these hinged parts rearward to cock the hammers. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. (My shoulders don`t like to pump my 97 without pain.). These hinged bits are part of the hammer cocking mechanism. Please PM with details, thanks! If you watch the Video of the Instruction Manuel, at the very end, Brand: Stoeger. Since I switched to Winchester I have not had that problem. Every score has been better than the previous. To take advantage of the top rail, youll most likely want to attach some type of reflex or holographic sight. Funneling chamber mouths The final step was to make take a spherical grinding stone to the chamber mouth. Price: $479. by Blaine Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:56 pm, Post A STOEGER COACH GUN shotgun is currently worth an average price of $534.39 new and $504.04 used . Is there a diagram or instructions for changing firing pins, I have waisted enough money, http://www.longhunt.com/gunparts/stoeger.htm. Average weight: 6.5 to 7 lbs. The Stoeger Coach Side-by-Side Shotgun is designed with classic style and the spirit of the Old West. Skip to main content. I had to choose the gauge (I went with 12 gauge as that is what most use at matches), finish (blued, stainless, or nickel I picked blued), single or double trigger (I chose double based on advice from others), and standard or Supreme model (I went with the Supreme because it has screw-in choke tubes and a thicker recoil pad). A grinder made all the difference in the world in doing this. A good value that has a lot more going for it than you might think by just looking at it. When the forward grip is fitted onto the barrels they actually protrude into the rear portion of the grip. They are pretty rough but they smooth up well. Stoeger Model M3500 12 Gauge Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Stock and 28-Inch Barrel. When I backed up to 40 yards, the left barrel remained in the middle, with the right barrel putting slugs about 10 inches to the high right. Like the spring, a Dremel tool is recommended for this process. The TTN is a 12-gauge gun, built on a "10-gauge" frame.. Have compared mine to a friend's old, original 10-gauge, 1878 Colt. Though, for a double triggered firearm, its pretty easy to use; Stoeger incorporated a nicely sized trigger guard with smooth curves for some added user-friendliness. I've got space on my walls and guncart. 1.Guns, Guns, more Guns. Youre right, the finish on the stock is almost a thing of beauty, and those nickel barrels/action contrast quite nicely with the dark walnut. Stoeger sends a prepaid shipping label for warranty returns. Since getting it back still does it. Sight . It's little . 20,985. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. steel receiver. by Panzercat Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:31 pm, Post Again, there are purpose-built guns that are better for specific types of game animals. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The sawed-off shotgun has been romanticized in hundreds of Hollywood Westerns as the stagecoach guard's weapon of choice, and this one is as handsome as it is affordable. Century's line of side-by-side shotguns embodies its corporate ethos. "Standing proud with my Coach gun." Its going to be my pack gun/ go every where gun. by Rusty Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:43 pm, Post Moved into deep ruel kentucky, from the city, where the coyote packs run and the meth heads cook!If im late from work, sure does feel good to know, with a phone call shell get that gun, jack two rounds,and eight more in the sling, till i get home. I was just in a Sportsmans Wearhouse Store yesterday, and they had 4 on their shelf. In Forrest's first major cavalry victory, he divided his men into three groups. This model is equipped with standard extractors (not ejectors) which push shells out of the chamber by about 1/4 when fully open. The TTN goes to the hills with me, on my spring, summer, and early-fall jaunts. Here is an excerpt from the Beretta Wikipedia page: The parent company, Beretta Holding, also owns Beretta USA, Benelli, Franchi, SAKO, Stoeger, Tikka, Uberti, and the Burris Optics company.. Drew, You will find the INFORMATION your seeking in the Post I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. FedEx says this requires a new shipping label to add insurance, and the sender then has to pay the shipping as well. Did you or someone else flare the chamber mouths? I can put it under the seat of my Honda Ruckus, in a case, and head to the woods. After using sandpaper, I put toothpaste on the surfaces, reassembled the shotgun, and opened and closed it several dozen times. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/stoeger2.html. Simultaneously, this affiliation has enabled Stoeger to thrive by providing them with state-of-the-art technology, better business management, and improved techniques. Double-barreled shotguns have been used as home defense weapons for well over a century, especially side by sides like the Coach Gun. I recently bought the plain jane model stoeger coach gun, however mine is the single trigger. If you talk to enough people who own guns you will hear horror stories about every brand. by Ji in Hawaii Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:08 am, Post Quantity: Buy now. I know this is a forum for Ruger discussion, but I've seen discussion on non-Ruger related products, so I figure this is alright. Eventually, it got to where it would just fall open when I pressed the lever, which is what I was looking for. In fact, Wyatt Earp was known to favor coach guns and Doc Holliday reportedly used a 10 gauge model at the OK Corral. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. If youre looking for a more simple and straightforward light attachment, their 69260 TLR-1 HL is a fantastic choice. While it may seem foolish to some, one of my favorite aspects of the TTN is its ability to be transformed from a bulbous 'clunker', into a very handsome, shootable gun.. Shaping the stock, within the parameters of the available wood was a pleasant challenge, as was the minor action wotk I performed on it.. Handguns require more practice and familiarity than owning a simple break open hammerless double-barrel shotgun ,and in some jurisdictions (New Jersey for instance) are less regulated and restricted than owning a handgun. Please Note: You can not reply to other people's classified ads, it is not a problem with your account. The Stoeger Coach Gun Supreme has removable chokes and come with a set of both so for the extra 50.00 it seams like its worth it, plus it has a recoil pad installed too. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. The contemporary (not 19th century original antiques with Damascus or twist barrels) The 1897 and coach guns are the most common used by cowboy shooters so thats where I started with my research. great review. As impressive as Leupold and EOTech are, I cant help but love Bushnell; the established American sporting goods company produces some of the best and affordable sights in the industry. I have allways objected for that very reason, which is why I have a hammer double. No problems. I had a new Stoeger Coach Supreme. O/U shotguns are all over on a skeet range. Breaking the lug is an all too frequent problem with Stoegers. E.R Amantino Coach 12 Gauge Shotgun. With that knowledge and three engineering degrees, I decided that I could slick up the shotgun myself and bypass the gunsmiths services. I have observed this on a couple of Stoegers and the results are not pretty. At the range, I compared two 12 gauge, side by side barrel coach guns. I shot that match using the shotgun pretty much straight out of the box, which turned out to be a mistake. You probably played with them, wondering what they actually do. Some need to be frozen to grind them worth a damn. and I prefer hammerless, especially for defense work. Ive NEVER had trouble with the pump, and Ive been using it for close to 40 years. NB I said shotgun gunsmith, because lots of rifle/pistol gunsmiths wont know how to properly measure the barrel wall thickness, nor will they have the proper reamers for lengthening the forcing cones (theyre spendy little buggers like $100 + shipping). Although nothing to rave about, the Sightmark Ultra Shot reflex sight will get the job done. The Stoeger Coach gun is a side-by-side shotgun, chambered for both shells with 2-3/4" and 3" measurement. Overall Rating * * * * 1/2 As an added bonus, they don't make that scary racking sound pumps make. 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