Kinda weird. Just file a little, test, file a little till it isnt happening any more? You are using an out of date browser. That's been my experience. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If you completely stripped it, listen to alma. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. Check for it. I tired changing the connector back to the original and nothing changed. Also do you have another 17 handy? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. No lube should be needed on RSA. I will let everyone know what I find out. I think I had a similar problem once. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. If this checks out 17 pounds is for 40 S&W. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Let it forward a little bit and then let go. thats one of my fears. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. My Glock trigger was/is the same as my Timney, 2.5#. The Barbie dolls are mine. Do the RSA's need lube? None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Wish I could look at it directly. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. You must log in or register to reply here. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. Have you tried shooting it? buddy19 Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. I noticed this after a cleaning. UPDATE! 17s and a 26 but done here, but the methods should be the same on the 20. But after doing some research, I shouldn't be surprised that a guy who got arrested for ripping off his LEO department, and even got his wife arrested for it too, would hier less than professional crew. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. I couldnt be happier. February 21, 2022 in Glock. They dont always fit perfectly right away. Haha. It does once I release(reset) the trigger. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. Is it safe to shoot? I am sure it has to do with some of the mods I've done. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. I don't know what the freaking problem is with my gun not going back into battery. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Haha. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. check the recoil spring. FYI it's not the recoil spring. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. Wondering if you ever got your issues resolved? -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. After about 500 rounds, and a couple of good cleanings it began cycling fine. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? You should seriously look at the takedown lever. Yes i am. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. My 19 does that but when I shoot everything seems to be OK. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. Haha). Lots of creep, but that is by design. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. What Argyle said sounds about right. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Its light but mushy. Just got a new spring today. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. I sent 100 rds down range today and no problems. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. The slide hangs up on something about 1/2" back. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. What ammo? "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." It may not display this or other websites correctly. It won't load a round. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? I put about 600 through it with the extensions with no issues. I had this with my first gen P80. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Pics to come soon. Out of a 10 round mag, it averaged 2 or 3 times. BrianEnos.com Thanks for the suggestion. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. I've shot pistols for a while and also have a g17. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. I do . You can take the Glock Armorers course and they give you one. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. I will look into buying some calipers. since it started when you changed the connector, it sounds like its an assembly issue. Ive tried swapping the extensions to different mag bodies for what its worth and the result is the same. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. Any ideas on what the issue might be? One new winner* is announced every week! Clear editor. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. It had 2056 through it. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. ago I'm not missing a pin I just put the wrong one in, and that's honestly what I thought, I'll try to fix it and see if it helps 1 Reply Its never happened with the factory barrel. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. is the cruciform on the trigger bar seated properly in the trigger mechanism housing? 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